Question: If Jesus wasn’t “sacrificed”, then is he still the “lamb of God”? If Jesus simply “laid down his life”, what does that mean for our sins?
Answer: when it comes right down to it you pay for your own sins. The doctrine of expiatory sacrifice in respect to Jesus was created by the church. For the Jews, prior to Jesus, animal sacrifice was supposed to take away sins, but according to God this was NOT true.
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Now if animal sacrifice couldn’t take away sins, and God considered human sacrifice an abomination and prohibited it, how could anyone actually think that God made a human sacrifice of one his own sons and that was to take away the sins of the whole world, past present and future! Think about it! Is that a crazy idea or what!
Even Jesus said that no one took his life away, which would be sacrificing him, but that he laid it down voluntarily. There is no animal that lays his life down voluntarily, sacrifice is something that is forced. Jesus was called the lamb of God — but it was MEN who sacrificed him not God. And they couldn’t have sacrificed him if Jesus hadn’t LET them. |
The reality is this: when men confess their sins, God forgives them. But if they continue in their unrepentant state, they pay for their own sins — “saved” or not. That’s why there is a reincarnation, to give another chance for those to repent and make amends and break their servitude to sin. It’s only those who overcome sins and do his commandments that become pillars in the house of God and no longer have to go out, and be born again and die again and repeat the cycle.
37.2 And He said to them, “Blessed are they who suffer many experiences, for they will be made perfect through suffering; they will be as the angels of God in heaven and will die no more. Neither will they be born any more, for death and birth have no more dominion over them.”
37.3 They who have suffered and have overcome will be made pillars of the temple of my God, and they will go out no more. I say to you, except you be born again of water and of fire, you cannot see the kingdom of God.
(See: Jesus Was Not Sacrificed)
Question: Have you ever heard of the AENT? (Aramaic English New Testament)
Answer: Yes I have heard of AENT. There are some differences, but these are basically the same gospels that were piece-mealed together by the roman church and codified by the Athanasians which were full of interpolations and corruptions. I believe that the True gospels were written in Hebrew or Aramaic and NOT Greek. But the four canonical gospels are in no way the originals that the disciples wrote.
What I really believe is that since the original gospels were written in Aramaic (or even some possibly in Hebrew) that certain men of the church translated the parts of the original gospels into Greek. Then those gospels were converted (not translated, as there would be no need to) back to Aramaic, since they still had the originals at that time. This would account for the fact that the gospels contain the correct and original scriptures. However, after that the whole original gospels were destroyed or hidden to hid the fact that the men who had put together the canonical gospels had left out or corrupted many portions of scripture.
Question: Do you have references for these quotes? Specifically for, “Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee” and “For there are three that give testimony– the Spirit, the water, and the blood”?
Answer: I know them by memory, I don’t even have to look them up.
Heb 1:5, 5:5, Psa 2:7
This is what God actually spoke to Jesus at his baptism — but in NONE of the baptism accounts of Jesus is this found. But we know this was said at his baptism because it persisted in Matthew’s gospel of the Hebrews. It’s obvious why the writers (who are not the men the gospels were named after) of the gospels left the quote to “this is my beloved son in whom I am well pleased” and left out the other.
“After the people were baptized, Jesus also came and was baptized by John. And as Jesus came up from the water, Heaven was opened, and He saw the Holy Spirit descend in the form of a dove and enter into Him. And a voice from Heaven said, ‘You are my beloved Son; with You I am well pleased.’ And again, ‘Today I have begotten You.’ ” (Gospel of the Hebrews)
(See: Today You Have Become My Son)
1 John 5:7 – Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost
About the question of the validity of 1 John 5:7 in the The Adam Clarke Commentary is written:
“But it is likely this verse is not genuine. It is wanting in every manuscript of this letter written before the invention of printing, one excepted, the Codex Montfortii, in Trinity College, Dublin: the others which omit this verse amount to one hundred and twelve. It is missing in both the Syriac, all the Arabic, Aethiopic, the Coptic, Sahidic, Armenian, Slavonian, etc., in a word, in all the ancient versions but the Vulgate; and even of this version many of the most ancient and correct MSS. have it not. It is wanting also in all the ancient Greek fathers; and in most even of the Latin”.
The King James Version:
1Jn 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
1Jn 5:8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.
(Words inserted by the Trinitarians that didn’t exist in the original)
The New International Version, published in 1973, with the modified version to reflect the more accurate translation is thus:
1Jn 5:7 For there are three that testify:
1Jn 5:8 the Spirit, the water and the blood; and the three are in agreement.
The reference to the Trinity with the expressions of Father, Son and Holy Spirit are absent in older Greek manuscripts and neither are they quoted by many of the early church fathers. These words appeared in the Latin texts of the New Testament as late as the Middle Ages.